Did Thomas Weller Isolate the Varicella-Zoster “Virus” in 1954?

According to the CDC:

“In 1954, Thomas Weller used cell culture to isolate VZV from vesicular fluid of patients with varicella or zoster.”

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/varicella.html

Taking the CDC at their not-so-trustworthy word, the ‘virus” responsible for both the chickenpox and shingles was not isolated until 1954. This means that any paper said to be working with the “virus” up to that point, such as Thomas Rivers in 1923, could only assume that they were working with a “virus” as varicella-zoster was never isolated for over half of the 20th century. However, if we are being picky, the paper itself was actually published in 1953 and Thomas Weller was awarded the Nobel Prize for his disgusting tissue culture practices in 1954, yet seeing how the CDC also believes a 14-year-old Rudolph Steiner performed experiments and wrote a paper in 1875 proving chickenpox infectiousness, I should probably let this error slide.

In any case, here is a brief history on Weller’s work:

“In 1954, the Nobel Prize for Medicine was awarded to Drs John Enders, Thomas Weller, and Frederick Robbins for their watershed discovery that growth of poliomyelitis virus occurred in cultures of cells of extraneural origin, first reported in 1949. Their demonstration in 1949 that the Lansing type II strain of poliomyelitis could be grown in cultures of human embryonic tissue set into motion a race to develop a vaccine for the disease that had crippled countless thousands of individuals. The discovery and subsequent recognition were only the beginning of a prolific career for Thomas Huckle Weller, who made numerous contributions to the field of virology, including isolating the varicella-zoster virus (VZV) from cases of chickenpox and zoster, providing suggestive evidence that the same virus is responsible for both diseases; isolating the human cytomegalovirus (CMV) for the first time in tissue culture and suggesting the descriptive name now used for it; establishing Coxsackie viruses as the cause of epidemic pleurodynia: and first isolating rubella virus, the cause of German measles.”

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12118846/

Thomas Weller…and yes, I know what you are thinking. You could definitely project a movie on that forehead.

“Suggestive evidence.” That is a very firm conclusion drawn there. Keep in mind that this “suggestive evidence” stems from the same sick tissue culture practices of aborted human embryos and foreskin tissues mixed with numerous chemicals and sources of animal DNA that was also used for the “isolation” of Polio. It must also be kept in mind that what virologists mean by “isolation” is the exact opposite of the accepted meaning of the word “isolation.”

So did Weller really “isolate” VSV and provide “suggestive evidence” as stated in his brief biography and by the CDC? Below is his full paper from 1953 with highlights and a summary:

Serial Propagation in vitro of Agents Producing Inclusion Bodies Derived from Varicella and Herpes Zoster.

It is generally accepted that serial propagation in the laboratory of the agents of varicella and of herpes zoster has not heretofore been accomplished. Certain of the earlier published reports regarding their serial propagation have more recently been attributed to possible confusion with viruses pathogenic for lower animals. However, morphological evidence has suggested that a single passage of the agents of varicella and herpes zoster has been achieved. Thus Rivers ( 1,2 ) observed focal lesions with intranuclear inclusions in the monkey testicle following the local inoculation of varicella vesicle fluid. Goodpasture and Anderson (3) grafted human skin on the chorioallantoic membrane of the chick embryo. Although negative results were obtained following inoculation of varicella vesicle fluid, in one experiment histological examination of grafts following inoculation with fluid from herpes zoster lesions revealed intranuclear inclusions. Using essentially the same technic, Blank, Coriell and Scott(4) likewise in one instance demonstrated inclusion bodies after inoculation of zoster material.

In 1948 we began an investigation of the potentialities of suspended cell cultures of human tissues as a medium for the isolation of the causative agent of varicella. Eosinophilic intranuclear inclusions were demonstrated on examination of tissue fragments removed from the cultures at intervals after the introduction of varicella vesicle fluid( 5). Efforts to maintain the responsible agent on serial passage in this type of culture were unsuccessful. More recently roller tube cultures of human tissues have been applied to the same objective. The results so far obtained are here reported in a preliminary manner. As will be shown it has been possible to isolate and maintain in serial passage cytopathogenic agents apparently derived from specimens of varicella vesicle fluid as well as others apparently obtained from herpes zoster vesicle fluid.

Materials and methods. Vesicle fluid specimens were collected and stored as previously described ( 5). Roller tube cultures were prepared as in our studies on poliomyelitis (6) utilizing either human embryonic skin-muscle tissue or foreskin tissue obtained from boys between the ages of 3 months and 3 years. In the present experiments the nutrient fluid for the cultures consisted of bovine amniotic fluid (90%), beef embryo extract (5%), horse serum (SP), antibiotics, soybean trypsin inhibitor and phenol red as recently described (6,7). Changes of the nutrient fluid were made at 3- or 4-day intervals. In certain experiments for histologic examination tissues were grown on coverslips coated with chicken plasma that were placed in roller tubes; these preparations were fixed with Zenkers-acetic acid and stained with hematoxylin and eosin.

Experimental. 1 ) Studies with varicella
vesicle fluid. Vesicle fluids derived from 11 cases of varicella were inoculated individually, usually in the form of 0.1 ml aliquots of a suspension in milk, into groups of roller cultures of human embryonic skin-muscle tissue. The exact concentration of the fluid in milk cannot be stated. In every instance tissue growth was well established at the time of inoculation. As summarized in Table I, in cultures inoculated with fluids from six of these cases, focal cytopathogenic lesions of a
characteristic appearance developed which were readily seen on microscopical examination of the living cultures. These lesions usually were first observed from the 6th to 8th day after inoculation. They consisted of small collections of swollen, rounded refractile cells which contrasted sharply with the surrounding fibroblastic or epithelial outgrowth. Those foci of affected cells developing in the sheets of cells of normal appearance increased slowly in size. The cells in the center of such focal areas gradually degenerated over the course of several days, while slow peripheral extension of the lesion continued for days or weeks as contiguous cells became infected. Study of stained coverslip preparations from roller tube cultures inoculated with vesicle fluid material has shown that the changes in cellular morphology are characteristically associated with the presence of inclusion bodies. At the margin of a focus occasional cells may be observed that show no gross morphological changes, yet contain small granular intranuclear inclusions. Rounded and swollen cells almost invariabIy possess intranuclear eosinophilic inclusions. Occasionally the larger swollen cells are multinucleate, with each nucleus containing an inclusion; such cells resemble the multinucleate giant cells described by various workers in the lesions of varicella, herpes zoster and herpes simplex (8). Focal lesions developing in a pre-existing loose network of cells progress irregularly, but manifest similar changes. The morphological changes observed in the cultures will be reported in more detail in a future communication.

All six of the agents isolated following the inoculation of varicella fluids have been propagated serially in tissue culture as indicated by the successive development in subcultures of focal areas of cellular enlargement and degeneration. Two of the strains (McE. and Wel.) have now been maintained for 10 passages as summarized in Table 11. The inoculum employed to initiate the third and succeeding passages in these experiments consisted of 0.1 ml of a suspension of coarsely ground tissue removed from the preceding set of cultures. On one occasion, the infected tissue suspension was frozen in the COz box prior to use; otherwise, the inoculum was prepared on the day it was employed. Fig. 1 to 3 depict representative cytopathic changes observed during the serial propagation of the McE. and Wel. agents. In contrast to the results obtained with tissue suspensions, attempts to establish passages with inocula consisting of centrifuged fluids removed from the infected cultures have so far been unsuccessful.

Studies designed to elucidate the nature and etiological relationship of these cytopathogenic agents thus isolated to variceIIa are in progress. In one experiment, vesicle fluid material of known infectivity for cultures did not produce cytopathic changes when inoculated following heating at 60°C for 30 minutes. In none of more than 70 control cultures maintained during the passage experiments have focal lesions been observed; these tubes routinely received inocula consisting of a suspension of tissue derived from control cultures of the preceding passage. Tissue suspensions infective for cultures have been without obvious effect when inoculated into suckling mice or into the developing hens egg by various routes. Attempts at in vitro neutralization of the cytopathogenic effect with convalescent serum from cases of varicella have so far been unsuccessful. It is possible that the close association of the infective agents with cell constituents may be involved in this apparent lack of neutralizing effect. In certain preliminary experiments in which culture fluids harvested from tubes showing cytopathic changes have been employed as antigen in complement fixation tests on paired serum specimens obtained from cases of varicella, a rise in antibody titer has been observed. The specificity of this reaction is under investigation.

2) Studies with herpes zoster vesicle fluid.
Similar focal cytopathic changes have been observed in cultures inoculated with material obtained on the day of appearance of vesicles from an 80-year-old (Sto.) with thoracic herpes zostert and with fluid collected from a 30-year-old woman (Pie.) with involvement of the ophthalmic branch of the trigeminal nerve. The Sto. inoculum had been stored in the frozen state for 21 months prior to use, while the Pie. fluids were inoculated on the day of collection. Serial propagation in tissue culture of these two agents has been accomplished, as summarized in Table III, again with inocula consisting of ground tissue suspensions. (These manipulations have been performed in a separate room from that in which the varicella agents have been maintained.) The cytopathogenic effect observed in the cultures closely resembles that obtained following the introduction of varicella vesicle fluid. Examination of stained preparations from the second tissue culture passage of the Sto. strain has also revealed that the rounded swollen cells composing the focal lesions contain intranuclear inclusions (Fig. 4). Tissue suspensions prepared from cultures of the Sto. and Pie. agents, that were successfully employed to initiate culture passages, have produced no overt symptoms in newborn mice when inoculated by various routes.

Discussion. Inoculation of roller tube cultures of human tissues with materials derived from the eruptive lesions of varicella and of herpes zoster has revealed the presence of cytopathogenic agents capable of producing intranuclear inclusions. These, subsequently, have been maintained in serial passage. A peculiarity of their behavior in the culture system employed has been the apparent failure of infectious material to appear in the fluid phase. The local lesions appear to increase in size by infection of immediately adjacent cells. On prolonged cultivation, however, an increase in the number of focal lesions occurs. In one experiment in which infected cultures were maintained for 8 weeks approximately 90% of the proliferating tissue became involved. Even so, extension of the lesions was continuing at the end of this period. The significance of these observations is being investigated. It is at present clear, however, that in the utilization of tissue culture technics for the isolation of unknown agents, consideration must be given to passage of tissue suspensions, as well as to the passage of fluid inocula.

No evidence has been obtained that the agents isolated are not those responsible for varicella and herpes zoster. Yet no definitive statement can now be made regarding their nature, their etiological relationships, or the interesting question of the possible identity of the agents of herpes zoster and varicella. It is to be noted that the virus of herpes simplex when propagated in tissue cultures of the type here employed manifests an early focal tendency to induce lesions but then rapidly brings about a widespread infection of the cell population resulting in an appearance quite dissimilar to that here described (9). The failure of these agents to produce obvious infection of suckling mice, in view of the high degree of susceptibility of this animal to the virus of herpes simplex (10). also indicates that they are not to be identified with the latter. We have no indication that a Rickettsia-like agent of the type described by Sprunt and Hirst ( 11) was present in our cultures.

Summary. The inoculation of roller tube
tissue cultures of human tissues with vesicle fluid derived from patients with varicella has resulted in the isolation of six cytopathogenic agents. Two of the strains have been maintained for 10 tissue culture passages by employing tissue suspensions as the passage material. Histologically the lesions produced consist of focal accumulations of cells which become swollen, and then degenerate: characteristically, such cells contain intranuclear inclusion bodies. From the eruptive lesions of two cases of herpes zoster, cytopathogenic agents of a similar nature have been isolated and have been propagated serially in cultures of human tissue.

https://doi.org/10.3181/00379727-83-20354

VSV…are we sure they didn’t just crack an egg, take a picture of it, and call it a day?

In Summary:

  • It is generally accepted that serial propagation in the laboratory of the agents of varicella and of herpes zoster has not been accomplished
  • Certain of the earlier published reports regarding their serial propagation have been attributed to possible confusion with “viruses” pathogenic for lower animals
  • Goodpasture and Anderson grafted human skin on the chorioallantoic membrane of the chick embryo
  • Negative results were obtained following inoculation of varicella vesicle fluid yet histological examination of grafts following inoculation with fluid from herpes zoster lesions revealed intranuclear inclusions
  • In 1948 Weller began an investigation of the potentialities of suspended cell cultures of human tissues as a medium for the isolation of the causative agent of varicella (thus discrediting any other so-called isolation attempts such as those by Rivers in 1923)
  • Efforts to maintain the responsible agent on serial passage in this type of culture were unsuccessful
  • Weller turned to roller tube cultures of human tissues to attempt the same objective
  • Weller claimed that his results showed it was possible to isolate and maintain in serial passage cytopathogenic agents apparently derived from specimens of varicella vesicle fluid as well as others apparently obtained from herpes zoster vesicle fluid
  • Roller tube cultures were prepared as in his studies on poliomyelitis utilizing either human embryonic skin-muscle tissue or foreskin tissue obtained from boys between the ages of 3 months and 3 years
  • The nutrient fluid for the cultures consisted of:
    1. Bovine amniotic fluid (90%)
    2. Beef embryo extract (5%)
    3. Horse serum (SP)
    4. Antibiotics
    5. Soybean trypsin inhibitor
    6. Phenol red
  • In certain experiments for histologic examination tissues were grown on coverslips coated with chicken plasma that were placed in roller tubes; these preparations were fixed with Zenkers-acetic acid and stained with hematoxylin and eosin
  • Vesicle fluids derived from 11 cases of varicella were inoculated individually, usually in the form of 0.1 ml aliquots of a suspension in milk, into groups of roller cultures of human embryonic skin-muscle tissue
  • The exact concentration of the fluid in milk cannot be stated
  • Study of stained coverslip preparations from roller tube cultures inoculated with vesicle fluid material had shown that the changes in cellular morphology were characteristically associated with the presence of inclusion bodies
  • Quick sidenote: Intranuclear inclusion bodies (INB) are aggregates of protein that are said to be frequently encountered in “viral” infections, where they are thought to be accumulations of “viral” particles, yet for RNA “viruses” replicating in the cytoplasm, this compartmentalization represents a paradox not consistent with the “viral” replication cycle https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1332364/
  • The larger swollen cells seen wre multinucleate, with each nucleus containing an inclusion; such cells resembled the multinucleate giant cells described by various workers in the lesions of varicella, herpes zoster and herpes simplex
  • All six of the agents “isolated” (I must have missed that part…) following the inoculation of varicella fluids were propagated serially in tissue culture as indicated by the successive development in subcultures of focal areas of cellular enlargement and degeneration
  • The inoculum employed to initiate the third and succeeding passages in these experiments consisted of 0.1 ml of a suspension of coarsely ground tissue removed from the preceding set of cultures
  • In contrast to the results obtained with tissue suspensions, attempts to establish passages with inocula consisting of centrifuged fluids removed from the infected cultures were unsuccessful
  • Studies designed to elucidate the nature and etiological relationship of these cytopathogenic agents thus isolated to variceIIa are in progress
  • In other words, Weller claimed he “isolated” particles of varicella but he had no idea whether they were in fact varicella
  • In one experiment, vesicle fluid material of known infectivity for cultures did not produce cytopathic changes when inoculated following heating at 60°C for 30 minutes
  • Controls consisted of tubes which routinely received inocula consisting of a suspension of tissue derived from control cultures of the preceding passage
  • Tissue suspensions infective for cultures were without obvious effect when inoculated into suckling mice or into the developing hens egg by various routes
  • Attempts at in vitro neutralization of the cytopathogenic effect with convalescent serum from cases of varicella were unsuccessful
  • Weller claimed it was possible that the close association of the infective agents with cell constituents may be involved in this apparent lack of neutralizing effect (in other words, not purified/isolated)
  • In some preliminary antibody tests, a rise in antibodies was observed, however, the specificity of this reaction was under investigation
  • Similar (i.e. not identical) focal cytopathic changes were observed in cultures in two cases of herpes zoster
  • Serial propagation in tissue culture of these two agents was said to be accomplished, again with inocula consisting of ground tissue suspensions
  • These manipulations were performed in a separate room from that in which the varicella agents were maintained
  • The cytopathogenic effect observed in the cultures closely resembled (again, not identical) that obtained following the introduction of varicella vesicle fluid
  • Tissue suspensions prepared from cultures of the Sto. and Pie. agents, that were successfully employed to initiate culture passages, produced no overt symptoms in newborn mice when inoculated by various routes
  • While Weller claims successful culture of cytopathic agents serially propagated in tissue culture, he admits a peculiarity of their behavior in the culture system employed was the apparent failure of infectious material to appear in the fluid phase
  • He detailed changes in the tissue observed but states the significance of these observations were still being investigated
  • Weller believed that in the utilization of tissue culture technics for the isolation of unknown agents, consideration must be given to passage of tissue suspensions (significance unknown), as well as to the passage of fluid inocula (material not infectious)
  • No evidence had been obtained that the agents isolated are not those responsible for varicella and herpes zoster yet no definitive statement could be made regarding their nature, their etiological relationships, or the interesting question of the possible identity of the agents of herpes zoster and varicella
  • The failure of these agents to produce obvious infection of suckling mice, in view of the high degree of susceptibility of this animal to the “virus” of herpes simplex, indicated to Weller that they are not to be identified with the latter
  • In other words, Weller had no idea if he isolated the varicella-zoster “virus” and his “virus” did not produce varicella, herpes zoster, or herpes simplex in mice…meaning Weller failed…he should have led with that and saved us all some time…

In order to believe that Thomas Weller isolated the varicella-zoster “virus” and provided “suggestive evidence” that both shingles and chickenpox are caused by the same “virus,” we must do two things:

  1. Change the definition of the word “isolation” to mean taking fluid from chickenpox/shingles cases and adding human foreskin tissue, beef amniotic fluid, beef embryo extract, horse serum, antibiotics, soybean trypsin inhibitor, and phenol red and then culture this concoction for days.
  2. Completely disregard Weller’s own negative evidence of infectiousness as well as his statement that what he had created could not be claimed to be either varicella or herpes zoster.

“Suggestive evidence?” A more accurate description would be NO EVIDENCE.

21 comments

  1. Dear Frank,

    This biology graduate (lolaneuro) says that it makes no sense to deny the existence of viruses and that they can be “isolated and purified” by spatial transcriptomics.

    He develops his attack on this twitter, in Spanish but it is well understood:

    best regards.

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  2. I’m assuming this comment was for me as I didn’t see a Frank in the comments section. My name is Mike. I only read and translated the first few tweets but he falls into the same trap they all do which is to assume a “virus” exists first and that it needs to be cultured. From two of his tweets:

    “Watson and Crick discovered the structure of DNA in 1953. And it is known that the vast majority of organisms are not cultivable. Viruses, by definition, cannot be cultured. They require a host cell for their cultivation. You do not fall into this, of course.

    To grow the virus, you need to find cells/organisms that it can infect but is not a pathogen for those cells. But Koch wants to show that the pathogen creates disease symptoms that are counterproductive to growing it.”

    Without ever having purified/isolated particles believed to be “viruses” directly from humans first, virologists would have no way of knowing that “viruses” must be cultured. They can not show any paper where “viruses” were purified/isolated directly from humans without culturing. They assume a “virus” is in the culture and then create whatever effect they want to see during the culture process.

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  3. ¡Dear mike !:
    By the way, if you read Wisser’s critique against lanka, you will notice that there is a good answer from a certain TIM.

    best regards.

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  4. Reading Visser’s critique, it occurred to me:

    If flu is a detox, then BALF should be somewhat toxic. Thus even even if they didn’t mix in anything else, just

    – added BALF from a sick person to Vero cells

    – added BALF from a well person to Vero cells (as a control)

    One may well expect pronounced cytopathic effect in the former and none or much less in the latter.

    But this still wouldn’t prove there’s a virus. It would just prove sick BALF is toxic.

    Then whatever is excreted from the dying Vero cells, we know it hasn’t been isolated/purified so they couldn’t ever go on to test Koch’s postulates.

    It’s seems like virologists are about 13 eggs short of a bakers dozen. Not just one broken link in their chain of reasoning, which would invalidate it, but every single link is broken.

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      1. Yeah but the Vero cells are the issue as well. The Vero cells are engineered to be “immunodeficient” as I understand it. So we need to look beyond just basic controls, to the engineered biologicals and what they are doing. I fully expect CPEs from well fluid because I suspect the Vero cells might start to break down as they are essentially mutant cells. Yes this would be an interesting experiment.

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      2. The cells used are definitely an issue. Theoretically, there is no reason they should not be able to grow the “virus” in human cells. They choose certain animal cell lines to obtain the breakdown pattern and particles they want to see.based on the recipe they use. They create the effect they are looking for and then claim that they found the cause. There is nothing natural or scientific about the cell culture method.

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  5. Also why did they use the foreskin of little boys? I mean, you have to question this. What a bunch of pathetic pervs and losers. The more I learn about the Rockefeller medical lab, the more I feel like puking.

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    1. Yes, the materials they use are disturbing and there is no rhyme or reason behind them. When I first started researching Polio, I would have nightmares just from the horrific cruelty and grotesque methods used. Virology is a disgusting and twisted domain.

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  6. Mike even before going through the details of this study, we can see at the beginning an AGENT is assumed to exist. AN AGENT has always been presumed to exist. There is no science here and the Twitter Spanish person is just repeating a religion. Your blog is the best and should get an award.

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    1. Thank you so much for the kind words and support! You are correct, as is always the case, the researchers go in assuming that there is a “virus” (or agent) present. They can not see the “virus” but assume one is there based on different chemical reactions they create in the lab. It is utterly ridiculous.

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  7. So…..I’ve dealt with shingles in beginning March of this year. Used herbs to successfully fight it back. It now feels like it wants to make a comeback.
    Are you saying these are detox symptoms?

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    1. Hi Magali! Yes, shingles is part of a detoxification process through the skin. It is just a stage that runs along a continuum of similar symptoms ranging from less severe (i.e. acne) to more severe (i.e. shingles and herpes).

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      1. Thanks Mike! Forgive my ignorance as I’m brand new to this all, but what exactly is the body detoxing? And what can one do to help it.
        I don’t ever want experience a full blown shingles attack again.

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      2. No worries Magali. There are many potential reasons that the body could be detoxing. For example:

        1. Consuming non-organic, genetically modified, pesticide-laden foods
        2. Drinking unclean, fluoridated and chlorinated water
        3. Living a sedentary lifestyle without regular exercise
        4. Consuming alcohol and recreational drugs
        5. Taking prescription medications and toxic vaccines
        6. Interrupted or inconsistent sleep cycle
        7. Lack of direct sunlight
        8. Long-term exposure to EMF’s and other radiation
        9. Overabundance of stress
        10. Regular use of cleaning supplies and other chemicals
        11. Breathing in toxin and polluted air

        Detoxing is most likely caused by a combination of many of these factors. As for shingles, it is hard to say what could be causing the body to eliminate toxins through the skin in such a manner. The best one can do is manage as many of the potential causes of a detoxification process to the best of their ability and if dis-ease starts to crop up, start fasting, resting, and de-stressing to allow the body to concentrate its efforts on flushing the toxins out.

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  8. Mike, reading your information with great interest. I am a holistic medical doc/ urologist by training. I have used lots of ozone for viral conditions, but lately I have been quite intrigued by the “lack of proof virLIEogy ” concept. One thing I cant surmount logically is gential herpes. There is no way to deny (at least observationally) that this is transmitted by skin to skin , especially genital contact. (Forget cold sores for now, I am talking about the distressing pelvic derm condition). Now It is possible that all the scam virologists are wrong, but as a clinician I have seen too many cases where the dermatitis of herpes spreads via contact. However there are many “holes” in the contact theory because not everyone who is exposed contracts herpes. I am developping a pet theory of sorts. It is possible the genital contact is spreading a toxin akin to poison ivy. Now instead of there being a virus, there is a recurring reaction to the toxin ? maybe a staph/strep/fungal toxin? This pet theory of mine seems to work well so far; maybe even better than the viral theories being promulgated. If you have any ideas or insights, would love to hear them.

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    1. Hi George, a toxin of some sort could definitely be a possibility but I haven’t seen much in way of evidence for that. My feeling is that it has more to do with excessive friction occurring during intercourse:

      “The friction during intercourse has been proven to cause skin discomfort, leading to a herpes outbreak. The first sign of genital herpes is a sharp pain which is later followed by sores on the genital area, or anus and buttocks.”

      https://herpalert.com/blog/2019/10/28/herpes-outbreak-triggers-what-can-trigger-herpes-outbreaks/

      This site lists many things which can cause a herpes outbreak which do not involve a “virus,” mostly physical trauma to the skin and/or nutritional and pharmaceutical toxins:

      “What triggers herpes?

      It is not known exactly why certain things trigger a recurrence of herpes, but there are thought to be a number of triggers:

      Hormonal changes – changes in hormone levels, for example at certain times of the menstrual cycle, or due to pregnancy, can trigger a herpes outbreak.

      Sexual intercourse – insufficient lubrication during vigorous sex can cause friction and irritate the skin and trigger herpes symptoms, though this might not happen every time. Water-based lubricants (not oil-based, as they can weaken latex, the material that condoms are made of) can help to reduce friction. 

      Weakened immune system – a lowered immune system, as the result of, for example, HIV or certain treatments for cancer such as chemotherapy, can lead to outbreaks of herpes.

      Surgery – trauma to the skin such as an operation on the genital area could trigger an outbreak of genital herpes.

      Excessive sweating in the genital area

      Stress – physical stress such as extreme tiredness (fatigue), and emotional stress such as anxiety and/or depression

      Drinking too much alcohol  

      Exposure of the affected area to strong sunlight or ultraviolet light from sunbeds.

      https://onlinedoctor.superdrug.com/genital-herpes-causes.html

      Most likely, if one partner’s skin was irritated by the friction created during sex, the other partner would experience a similar reaction. There really would be no need for a “virus” nor toxin to explain this.

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      1. “Weakened immune system- a lowered immune system, as a result of, for example, HIV….” Now I’m confused. I thought this site was viroliegy. I realize you are quoting from another source, but still…..

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      2. Yes, the inclusion of a weakened immune system was from the source, which was provided as examples that the mainstream admits to as potential causes. I do not promote an immune system as I have seen no scientific evidence supporting the belief in one.

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