Yesterday I had the privilege and the honor to speak with Alec Zeck, John Blaid, Mike Donio, and Jacob Diaz about the claims made regarding the isolation and existence of “SARS-COV-2” by Dr.’s Malone, McCullough, and Cole. In this video, we address specific points they made such as whether or not:
- Cultivation in cell culture is “isolation” of a “virus?”
- Koch’s Postulates had been satisfied for “SARS-COV-2?”
- The effect a drug has can be considered proof of the existence of a “virus?”
- The electron microscopy images taken from unpurified cell cultures are proof of “virus” particles?
- The particles assumed to be “viruses” are purified and isolated directly from the samples of a sick patient?
It was a pleasure to be a part of this conversation! I hope that you are able to come away with a better understanding as to why the evidence for the existence of “SARS-COV-2,” or any “virus” for the matter, is entirely lacking and unscientific.
Addressing Dr. McCullough, Dr. Malone, and Dr. Cole’s SARS-CoV-2 Claims: Where’s The Evidence?
Mike Donio, John Blaid, Jacob Diaz, Mike Stone, and Alec Zeck filmed a response to claims made by Dr. Peter McCullough, Dr. Robert Malone, and Dr. Ryan Cole regarding virus isolation and the existence of SARS-CoV-2 during an episode of The StreetMD Show hosted by Dr. Jo Yi on the Ickonic platform. The overall stance held by the speakers is simple: the claims made by these 3 gentlemen lack both in context and in substantial evidence to support the notion that SARS-CoV-2 exists as a pathogenic disease causing agent.
ViroLIEgy 
Its quite ridiculous that the term isolation can be confused. The word originated before “Viroliegy” was invented.
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Yes it is absolutely ridiculous. Virologists know full well the meaning of the word isolation and that they can not adhere to that definition with regards to “viruses.” That is the only reason they changed the definition to the exact opposite of its intended meaning. Anyone who says otherwise is being intellectually dishonest.
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BOOM! Let’s keep this up, we can’t let these doctors get away with this intellectual dishonesty any longer.
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Agreed. We need to hammer them over and over again.
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Oh, man, I could hardly listen to those StreetMD clips. Cringe worthy, same old lies and misconceptions and changing long-standing definitions. So many fallacies. Unicorns trampling lawns, gifts under the Christmas tree. Perfect analogies.
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Yeah, I felt dumber after listening to them.
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No biggie, but i think it would help to have info about the participants, aside from you, Mike, for example i had to search to find out anything about John Blaid, did luck onto his page.
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That’s a good point, I agree ….
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Same! Will rectify ASAP!
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Thanks for pointing this out! I was intending to link to both Alec and John and I will see what I can find for Mike D. and Jacob. Thanks for the suggestion/reminder! 🙂
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Thanks. Great minds think alike. 😂
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Absolutely! 😉
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And, excellent video, by the way, sharing widely.
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Thanks! 😁
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That was another great video. Here’s yet more evidence that biology in general may be mostly wrong:
https://healthimpactnews.com/2022/modern-medicine-is-based-on-politics-and-dogma-not-science-remembering-british-biologist-whistleblower-harold-hillman/
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Thanks! Harold Hillman was one of the honest ones and was ahead of his time.
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It was gratifying and even a little moving to see all of you together. Your broad scholarship and Donio’s lab experience/knowledge were a particularly dynamite combo, with Diaz driving points home with a social reality check and Blaid and Zech as all-rounders.
This to me is the new face of science. Real science. Citizen science as some call it.
The mainstream is an infinite hall of mirrors. It’s all motte-and-bailey arguments, like the idea that one doesn’t isolate a virus the commonsense way as “it would take too many samples” but still speaking as if it’s been done that way before at least once or would be possible. As we know, it’s never been done. More to the point, it’s never even claimed to have been done (unless I missed something).
So we have something that’s never been done being used as a bailey, an argument that is dropped if ever pressed on it but that serves as a paper tiger for public consumption (much like Einstein’s “gravity well” with a steel ball on a rubber sheet analogy): “Yes we COULD do isolation that direct way [as if it’s sometimes done] but it isn’t really practical so we do it indirectly, you see. This is how it’s done in the field.”
The appeal to authority helps the motte-and-bailey go down, notice, as do the semantic games. Recognize that holy trinity of the art of bullshitting and you will see it everywhere bullshit is sold: Motte-and-bailey argument (a.k.a. rhetorical bait and switch), semantic games, and appeal to authority. If data is involved, lying with stats is an essential fourth tool, but the best methods of doing that lean heavily on semantics.
Finally, that particular bailey is just one of many. A different virologist or doctor or epidemiologist will give a different bailey, another disposable argument offered as a paper tiger that is easy to crush but on the occasion someone finally calls them on it they would just retreat to some other bailey or finally to the ultimate motte: “We’re doing the best we can.”
As you’ve documented so well, there are literally hundreds of baloney notions they can invoke, from “high titers of virus” to “antibodies” to genomics to mis-documented historical data to endless semantic games to the basic flawed paradigms of germ theory and symptom suppression as cure.
To debate with them is to slash endlessly at giggling phantoms offered then withdrawn, never anything you can sink your teeth into unless you can either drill down and destroy each notion one by one (but that requires tremendous discipline and in a single debate only one of the hundreds of pieces could be debunked) or zoom out and show the overarching circuitous pattern of circular reasoning that their short-term memory can never grasp all at once so as to notice its circularity (but that requires a large pre-made diagram as well a deft correction of the fubar semantics, and at the end when bare appeal to authority is all that remains this must be impressed on them or the gallery).
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This is why focusing on “virus” isolation/purification is key. It’s the one point that if drilled down on takes down the whole edifice.
The other such linchpin is that these diseases are helpful, not harmful. I like that one because they have no immunity to it, no arguments built up against it yet.
As an aside, the notion of isolate as in “get it away from the human subject” is a neat wordplay. That means they must think anyone hawking a loogie has “isolated the virus,” too😂
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Lol, I wouldn’t put it past them but they will just claim there is not enough “virus” in the loogie. Then in the same breath, they will tell everyone to be sure to keep wearing a mask, get vaccinated, and stay 6 feet away from anyone out of fear of coming into contact with the loogie without enough “virus.” 😉
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It’s like that, an endless stream of too-convenient arguments, punts relying on the strength of the rest of the paradigm, semantics, and whatever other tricks they feel are in arm’s reach. It didn’t escape me that they presumed the questioner believed all the other “viruses” exist – punting to the paradigm. Once it’s clear that appealing to the rest of a bunch of mutually reinforcing pillars is all they have, and that there’s a much better paradigm (theory) for explaining the known observations, the whole thing collapses.
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Virology is absolutely a house of cards just waiting to crumble. They have run out of tricks. 😉
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Beautifully said and I couldn’t agree more! They have come up with a multitude of ways to claim a “thing” exists without ever directly showing the “thing” exists in humans. They have thrown in some many methods and disciplines and compartmentalized the crap out of all of it in order to keep people from the truth. I’m so happy you are able to see through the BS and I’m glad to be able to do my part with my colleagues to help others learn the truth. Thanks for the feedback! 🙂
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If you Dldo everything that’s done to isolate a virus to a grape, it’s easy to picture in your mind what would happen.
Grapes are equal to exosomes.
Viruses are exosomes.
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“Viruses” = exosomes = meaningless particles 😉
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I am no expert, scientist or anything close. It seems to me that you gather a sample of some kind from an infected person(s) and then thoroughly examine it. You eliminate all the particles or molecules you can identify because as a researcher you have run into them before. Whatever remains, could be your virus.
But having never seen any virus before, how do you know what you are looking at? The samples you take have a specific composition which should be fairly constant from person to person. It is some kind of invader you are looking for and if you have contaminated your sample with all kinds of cells and gooky potions, there is no way to know what the invader looks like because you may have created it by all the interference of your sample.
Isolation and purification seems straight forward to me. Because they beat around the bush all the time, these researchers are clueless and only bend to the whims of germ theory which is saying they worship at the alter of big pharma. In that case, their confidence and trust factor is blown to smithereens.
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Virology painted itself into a corner when trying to blame invisible particles. They can not find them directly in human samples, can not separate the particles in cell cultures, and can not prove pathogeniticity in any logical way, shape, or form. This is why they try to make the case with nothing but indirect evidence. They can never provide direct proof.
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Why dont you gutless pieces of shit have the GUTS to face these supposed Fools ,face to face Start with your qualifications versus theirs…also list a few of your achievements Just hide behind your stupidity
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What do qualifications matter? That is an appeal to credentials logical fallacy. Base your argument on the information provided, not the person providing it. And many have engaged with these “qualified” people and have been treated to nothing but ad hominem attacks. The debates lead nowhere which is why we established the “No Virus” challenge to settle this scientifically:
https://viroliegy.com/2022/07/15/the-no-virus-challenge/
Instead of demanding debates, ask Malone, McCullough, Cole, Kirsch, McCairn, Fleming, etc. to sign on for the challenge. If they decline, ask them to explain why they do not want to engage in proper scientific investigation adhering as closely to the scientific method as possible. Anything else is a waste of time.
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Two things there has been a challenge to show the virus and get millions of dollars and yet nobody has take up the challeng. Second comment is that I now am more reminded of the base assumptions we build our logic on. Why has this discussion not been put to Malone and the others to respond to?. I am.glad that young people are challenging the assumptions and ensuring yhat logic prevails. thx guys
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